Put me on a diet of low fat mods

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Put me on a diet of low fat mods

Postby credit » Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:17 pm

Where would you start if you where trying to lighten my baggie. I already have a m4 carbon fiber pipe..now I'm looking for liposuction on the engine. I was offroad today and the bike felt like it weighed a ton. It's still light on the street, but I want a lightweight not a welter, middle or heavyweight....please send me to weight watchers now.
PS. If you list a part let me also know where to get it.
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Postby phlat65 » Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:43 am

I removed all the front "stuff" and installed acerbis cyclops headlamp, prob 3 lbs. alloy bars, and light exhaust. replaced all turn signals with much smaller ones. removed the rear "cargo" bars. the rear subframe could be re done in alloy, prob 10 lbs there. the biggest problem is the engine it self. it is REAL heavy.. I don't see any way to change significantly. good luck!!
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Postby credit » Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:01 pm

Where is all this weight in the engine, What are the aftermarket parts that will make the most dramatic difference. These are the mods I want to do first. (ie) pistons, billet,
I already switched to a renthal bar.. Maybe I saved 2 lbs.
and I removed that charcoal shit.
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Postby phlat65 » Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:50 pm

the engine is heavy because it was designed 10 or 11 years ago for street durability. trans is beefy, buttom end is beefy.... theres really not much to do to the engine to shave weight. lighter piston will only save ounces. maybe there is a conversion to kick start from XT600, but I wouldn't want to kick that thing in the morning! all the weight to be shed is external. I could see prob 30 -35 lbs with use of alluminum. I am probably gonna convert mine to full jap bodywork and fuel tank next winter, maybe RM or DR.... you could buy another bike for dirt only and save money!

by the way, what baggy do you have?
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Postby Brian » Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:19 am

The Baggy is a great street fighter, a great gravel road burner etc etc , Its no MX'er I'm with Phlat, buy a RM or YZ etc...you have done the one mod that drops the most weight is the exhaust... the rest of the doodads would prolly not equal the weight of the exhaust... all that Phlat mentioned plus street tire would bring the baggy down to what a KTM 640 weighs... around 320-330..... I bought the MZ over the KTM cause the MZ sounds cool with the M4 can (me got a M4 as well) and is a hot lookin bike.
Don't "sweat " the weight, minor compared to all the great things about your bike :-D
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Postby credit » Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:15 am

what's all the fuss then about the shinny alluminum that all the raptor riders put on there bikes. Does this save weight
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Postby phlat65 » Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:50 am

not for weight savings. alot of the parts like clutch covers and waterpumps that are billet are for strength. I smashed the clutch cover on my RM, and the FMF one I bought is heavier than stock!

you still haven't said what Baggy you have. 17's or dirt wheels?
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Postby credit » Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:43 pm

baggie street moto.... no 22'' here
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