Baghira Supermoto/Black Panther vs. KTM LC4 w/ 17" whee

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Baghira Supermoto/Black Panther vs. KTM LC4 w/ 17" whee

Postby skyfroggy » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:47 am

I'm gettin' one of these, but I can't decide which.

Each have their own positives and negatives.

Please be honest and tell me why I should choose one over the other. I've done lots of research, so I have a fairly good idea, but I wanna' hear it from you guys, especially any of you who may have owned or ridden both.

Thanks. :)
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Postby DEmark » Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:34 am

The KTM is faster and lighter, the MZ is going to give you more trouble free miles and is MUCH cheaper. Which is best? It all depends on what you are going to do with it......
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Postby skyfroggy » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:58 pm

What are the 'troubled' miles one can expect from a KTM...besides the main shaft bearing?
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Postby DEmark » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:05 pm

Check this out http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/Fo ... 00145.html

You could also do a web search on "broke KTM" "KTM failures" etc
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Postby skyfroggy » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:30 pm

That's a good link. Thanks.
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Postby DEmark » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:32 pm

Sometime when you have some time, check out the rest of the website. It's a fascinating website.
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Postby phlat65 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:43 am

I bought my MZ as a fun supermoto style street bike, and that is exactly what it is. It is way fun, very reliable, and different.
the KTM might be faster and lighter, but I don't know how much better that makes it as a street bike. I have raced my MZ in the novice class at a local supermoto race, and beat a few ktm's in the process. ( 5th out of 22)
after 12,000 miles, my bike has needed:
3 sets pirelli MT60's
5 oil changes
1 valve adjust
1 brake light switch
1 chain

if I was to do it over again, I would buy the MZ. it still runs and looks like it is new after almost 4 years.
2001 MZ Black Panther
2001 Suzuki RM125 (full Enduro)
Old Hondas- TT500 Ascott, 305 Dream Touring
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Postby keithcross » Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:41 pm

Plus one other plus point with the MZ. Dont know about where you are, but in teh UK they are just to common.

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Postby skyfroggy » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:47 pm

Baghira Supermoto it is!!! :-D :-D :-D

Worked out a deal today with a gentleman from the Atlanta area. 8)

Thanks for your comments and thanks especially to Dezmo! :wink:

I'm psyched! Pick it up tomorrow evening with a fresh oil/brake fluid/coolant change.

Woo-freakin'-hoo!!! :smt026 :smt026 :smt026
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good luck

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:21 pm

be careful dont freak out on us in your excitement and
dump it
rember it is light and 50 hp
if its like my saxon tour it can be gone in a heart beat and it does not care
if you come along for the ride
it will beat your head just like this guy :smt075
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Postby skyfroggy » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:45 am

Comin' off a 165 horsepower machine, I think I'll be OK, but thanks for the warning. :lol:

Can't wait 'til tonight. 8)
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size

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:03 am

you my like the down size
my last ride before the rt125 was a 1974 bmw R90S

and i like the 125 better
except on a really long trip where the posted speeds are 65 75 mph
at 55 the rt125 does fine but then i never was a Jet Pilot
almost all my bike have been bmw /2 and /5 models

as for the saxon tour its fun but the rt125 is sort of more user friendly
you just ride it... the saxon tour has to be told all the time what to do
or it will get you in trouble and on trips it is a harsh ride i can actually
make better time on the 125
have lots of fun :D
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