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Electronic Ignition

Postby akirasan » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:26 am

Hi got a kit ready to put on my ETZ 250.

Looking for a dial gauge any recommendations please

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Re: Electronic Ignition

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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby akirasan » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:24 pm

all fitted very very easy to fit and runs great.

only £60 from ebay
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Re: Electronic Ignition

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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby akirasan » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:33 am

mzi.jpg
eBay item number:
233478873087
for the ignition £65

and got the dial gauge from burwins £16

very easy instructions fitted the wire through the loom hole on the engine so tidy and will not
be cut by the chain.

disconnect green wire from points and remove points and condenser.
fit new ignition plate where the points were and connect coloured coded wires.

remove green wire from coil and connect new wires .

get the correct tdc and move the new timing plate and a light comes on the unit when it sparks.

So easy with the dial gauge and it started 2nd kick as usual.

while my points were still like new decided to fit the new ignition to save working on the bike
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Re: Electronic Ignition

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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby Blurredman » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:31 am

That is the same electronic ignition I have. I believe it's polish made - ‘Zaplon elektroniczny’

The guy in the UK just sells them on.

However.. Yes, it is very good I think. I bought one to replace the fact that the points on my 251 simply could not be set. There may have been crankshaft bend or something strange happening there - either way it doesn't matter as the engine has now been rebuilt- BUT.. I did not re-implement the points, I kept the electronic ignition.

This is a bike that I travelled for 10k miles with this electronic ignition, and to my memory have had no issues what so ever related to the item. Just remember to use appropriate spacing so that the magnet/rotor is the ideal distance from the sensor! The little LED to indicate sensoring of the magnet to time it is also extremely handy!
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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby Kruh » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:19 am

Has anyone tried this ignition system?

http://www.wsk.audiobas.pl/sklep/zaplon ... azowe.html

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Much cheaper than Vape. Its basically a 11 pole alternator from chinese gy6 engines modified to fit on the MZ.
It produces about 150W.


I'm actually thinking of buying the stator, magneto and a 2 stroke cdi/coil. And fitting it myself for even cheaper.
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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby Puffs » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:21 am

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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby Kruh » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:54 am

It wouldn't fit, the ETZ stator mounting is different from the TS/ES.
However, there are more companies who make those ignitions fit.
Like this one:

http://turbozabytki.wskturbo.pl/pl/p/Ko ... 0251150/79

Again, it is the same GY6, 11 pole alternator. Here they don't even modify it; this company uses a adaptor for the magneto. Unlike the previous link, where they replace the centre part with a taper that fits the MZ. That way with one solid piece is supposedly better than the adaptor way. But I got absolutely no experience with any of those... Certantly an interesting way of making it work.

150W is more than enough. Even without the use of LED's and with a H4 bulb in the front.
Just for comparisson, the new Royal Enfield 650 bikes output 156W. And they have many more electronic components than an old MZ.


Puffs wrote:In fact, if you run LED lights, even a generator capacity of 25W DC or less would easily suffice - and make the bike run 1% faster, giving +/-0.2HP extra to go into the gearbox.

Not quite... A LED bulb for the headlight still uses about 20 - 30 W, add the taillight, break light, indicators and speedo lights and you need a bit of power.
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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby akirasan » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:33 am

The guy I bought it off also doe 6v ignitions

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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby Puffs » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:55 am

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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby akirasan » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:22 pm

Been out on the bike today and the EI works great.

Picks up much better and is more responsive in higher revs.

Totally recommend
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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:57 pm

i have a 2004 vw bug and tow a trailer
had to use led bulbs in the trailer
the car was blowing fuses on the
tail and brake lamp
so had to cut the current draw
by putting in led bulbs
did not want to try bigger fuse
my 97 Nissan truck did the same

my 100 watt ham radio uses a 50 ah battery that’s in the trunk
and is charged from the accessory plug back there controlled to trickle charge it
the radio runs on the extra battery
the car computer goes nuts if i try to use the car battery to transmit
the radio allows me to talk to stations world wide and back home when i go out west
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Re: Electronic Ignition

Postby Puffs » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:59 am

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