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60's MZ question

Postby cptnepr » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:47 am

Hello everyone! new here and hoping to gain from information you all may have. I found a MZ in Nakhon Phanom Thailand and bought it. I know nothing about MZ and honestly never heard of it before that day. The story with the bike I was told is a Captain in the Thai army bought the bike new. my best guess it is a '66ish ES and it has an es125 badge on the tail. As for the year I'm not sure. it has the rocker front end but the headlight assy don't match the pictures I have seen. Maybe someone could clear up the mystery in my mind. The bike is complete yet disassembled. I have a trustworthy shop working on getting the bike together and running. Historically I build Ducati bikes and cafe racers. but this bike is going full original and restored. I will upload pictures of how I found it. The tag on the front fender reads in Thai "Captain" and the number is his serial number for base registration. That of course is remaining. I will be importing it back to the US along with several other Japanese scooters from that era I have found. Thank you in advance for any information

sincerely !
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Re: 60's MZ question

Postby cptnepr » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:49 am

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Re: 60's MZ question

Postby Puffs » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:57 am

Welcome, and that looks like a worthwhile thread to watch!

Sorry, I don't know that bike personally. Good luck!
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Re: 60's MZ question

Postby Guesi » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:49 pm

Hello

I don´t think that this bike is original. For example the front swinging arm. I never saw this on any MZ bike.

I think that fuel tank, front swinging arm, headlamp and some other parts are non-MZ parts.

Handlebar seems to be taken from an ES 250/0 model .

The top lug of the front fork seems to be from an ETS model.


Frame and engine cound be from an ES 125 model.
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Re: 60's MZ question

Postby Guesi » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:07 am

Front shock absorbers are original MZ.
They were used on Es models.
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Re: 60's MZ question

Postby breakwellmz » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:40 am

Yep, ES125, mid sixties . If the filler cap is original it must be post `67.
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Re: 60's MZ question

Postby Guesi » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:49 am

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This is how an ES 125 looked here in Germany.
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Re: 60's MZ question

Postby Puffs » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:40 am

Indeed, for an ES I expected that humongous (structural?) front mudguard & headlamp, but apparently there are substantial styling differences in the export model. To my eye the export version looks substantially better.
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Re: 60's MZ question

Postby Guesi » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:18 am

The thing is: I never saw this kind of export model before.
MZ exported to different countries, even to Thailand. But I never saw this kind of bike on any official papers or ads...
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Re: 60's MZ question

Postby Puffs » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:33 am

Following a biased and flawed moderator choice (someone posting aggressive personal attacks is rewarded, while my technical posts are removed - behind my back & without any justification!), I have withdrawn from this forum.
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