A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

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A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

Postby Puffs » Sat May 15, 2021 4:07 am

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Re: Reeds on a 251

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Re: Reeds on an ETZ251

Postby Puffs » Sat May 15, 2021 4:42 am

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Re: A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

Postby Blurredman » Mon May 17, 2021 8:52 am

Now I have nothing to add- but I am entruiged as to the long term use this will have esspecially compared with the old stuff..


Does it feel like it used to?
1973 MZ ES250/2 - 17,000 miles - The project! :)
1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9,000 miles - Mud :)
1981 Honda CX500B - 91,000 miles - Long Distance :)
1987 MZ ETZ300 - 38,000 miles - Sun :)
1989 MZ ETZ251 - 49,000 miles - Commute :)

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Re: A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

Postby Puffs » Tue May 18, 2021 3:57 am

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Re: A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

Postby Puffs » Wed May 19, 2021 10:19 am

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Re: A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Wed May 19, 2021 9:26 pm

did some pulse jet engine stuff in the early 1960 with them we had a NO MANS LAND SAFETY AREA
behind the exhaust when the metal reeds blew it was very dangerous out there in the back yard

also tested go kart motors at very high rpm no one allowed in room with motor running

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Re: A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

Postby Kruh » Thu May 20, 2021 3:20 am

Pretty cool. But to take full advantage of the reeds, you would need to have windows in the piston or at least, a shorter piston skirt. So that the intake is controlled by the crankcase pressures, not the piston. Otherwise its the same thing, but with less blowback at the carb.
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Re: A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

Postby Puffs » Thu May 20, 2021 4:34 am

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Re: A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

Postby Kruh » Thu May 20, 2021 4:52 am

True, that does increase piston wear, l hence the windows. Although the concerne there is the strenght of the skirt. MZs have pretty high pistons as is, so I don't think it would increase wear by much.

Yes, most modern bikes with reeds feed directly into the crankcase. Which offers the bet filling potentional. I guess, thats not something that matters much in a low revving machine like the MZ.

Raising the barrel, and shortening the skirt is good for achiveing higher rpms. But, unless you shaved the top of the barrel or head, you deacrease the compression and more imporatantly increase the squish gap. So you loose more than you gained with more port timing.

In any case, seems like something that could work pretty well for street use. Since blowback is most noticable below 4000 rpm. Which is where these engines spend most of there time
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Re: A Reed Valve on an ETZ251

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