Dragging clutch

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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby Puffs » Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:50 am

Following a biased and flawed moderator choice (someone posting aggressive personal attacks is rewarded, while my technical posts are removed - behind my back & without any justification!), I have withdrawn from this forum.
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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby stevebod » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:14 am

Ah ha - success!

Thank you for all the help.

In the end the problem was resolved by fitting new friction plates.
The new plates were in line with the specifications and they were all the same diameter too.
I did find the new plates slightly sticky where the fingers on the outside engaged with the slots in the basket.
So I veeeeery gently smoothed the slots with the Dremel and now they all float freely.

I have only done a test from cold but can already tell it is much better.
Cleaner gear selection, no dragging and I can even find neutral whilst stationary.
I am hoping things will only get better as the oil warms up.

Cheers.

* Edit - I've just noticed your latest reply Puffs, after typing this.
I appreciate your thoughts and you were on the right track. I think a combination of thicknesses and the plates being too tight in the basket was the problem.
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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby Blurredman » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:53 am

Ah well done! Methodical processes make the winning even sweeter! I don't think I realised you even had new clutch plates? The aftermarket clutch plates as I've mentioned on the 250 models are thicker as I say, but also have the finger spine issue you've mentioned (they're on the inside however on these engines).


Now you can go free and hopefully trouble free too!
1973 MZ ES250/2 - 17,000 miles - The project! :)
1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9,000 miles - Mud :)
1981 Honda CX500B - 91,000 miles - Long Distance :)
1987 MZ ETZ300 - 38,000 miles - Sun :)
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Re: Dragging clutch

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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby dave47 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:14 am

Steve, can I ask where you bought the friction plates.
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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby stevebod » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:34 pm

Sorry Dave, I've only just seen your question.
I got them from a Bristol chap who does many MZ spares.
I am lucky he is local to me.
He has an EBay store which you can find here.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/mzpartsbristol
Apparently they are the same parts as the ETZ models.
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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby Blurredman » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:19 am

Ah that'll be Rob. I know him well.

Infact I see him once a month at the local Bristol MZ club meet. Let me know if you want details.
1973 MZ ES250/2 - 17,000 miles - The project! :)
1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9,000 miles - Mud :)
1981 Honda CX500B - 91,000 miles - Long Distance :)
1987 MZ ETZ300 - 38,000 miles - Sun :)
1989 MZ ETZ251 - 49,000 miles - Commute :)

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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby stevebod » Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:38 am

Hi Blurredman,
Ah I didn't realise you were nearby, now I see you are in South Wales.
Yes I would like to come to an MZ meet sometime.
I think Rob already mentioned it's a Sunday in Ham, but I don't have details on which Sunday or a time.
Cheers.
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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby Blurredman » Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:28 am

stevebod wrote:Hi Blurredman,
Ah I didn't realise you were nearby, now I see you are in South Wales.
Yes I would like to come to an MZ meet sometime.
I think Rob already mentioned it's a Sunday in Ham, but I don't have details on which Sunday or a time.
Cheers.



Indeed. Every 2nd sunday of the month, pub opens @ 12. Most then leave at 2-3pm.
So far I've not managed to miss one for 6 or 7 months! I've just been lucky that each occasion has fallen on a date which coincides with my diary!
1973 MZ ES250/2 - 17,000 miles - The project! :)
1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9,000 miles - Mud :)
1981 Honda CX500B - 91,000 miles - Long Distance :)
1987 MZ ETZ300 - 38,000 miles - Sun :)
1989 MZ ETZ251 - 49,000 miles - Commute :)

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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby dave47 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:48 pm

Thanks for the information. Ihave bought from this dealer before and found him satisfactory.
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Re: Dragging clutch

Postby stevebod » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:07 am

Thanks Blurredman.
I'll try and make one in the near future.
Cheers.

Glad you got some sorted Dave.
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