dateing cetificate [for bike ]

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dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby dellboy77 » Fri May 08, 2015 11:37 am

I have recently acquired an MZ Skorpion Sport and although these models were only manufactured between 1994 and 2002, my bike was not registered for the first time with the DVLA until 2011.




The Engine No. is 4NN - 002233

The Frame No. is SNZ6SE200S7502223




Is there any way that I can verify and obtain a dating certificate for it's year of manufacture ? If this date is before 1997, the bike would qualify for Classic Insurance. many thanks del :roll:
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Fri May 08, 2015 7:56 pm

the vin tells all you need and the license people should know and so should the insurance people

The Frame No. is SNZ6SE200S7502223

the s is the year = 1995

it should have a 1995 plate
this needs corrected because some COP will be writing you a ticket for an illegal plate
your frame number tells him your plate should be a 1995
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http://support.alldata.com/alldata-repa ... year-chart
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby dellboy77 » Sat May 09, 2015 4:10 am

thanks for that its now getting interesting I know the when bike was put on the road in the uk it had never been registered [new bike ] so plates are ok 2011 so where had the bike been in storage since 1995 ? :?:
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby brennain1 » Sat May 09, 2015 7:00 am

That's interesting, hadn't realised that VIN numbers had a common format like this.
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Sat May 09, 2015 9:18 am

the DVLA needs to be ask about this...

because some copper may want to impound your bike because the plate says its a 2011

and the frame number says 1995

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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby dellboy77 » Sat May 09, 2015 11:23 am

don't not work that way in uk the v5 [ log book ] has 2011 on it and that's what counts year of registration not year of manufactor so not prob with cops :D
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby vicar » Sat May 09, 2015 1:51 pm

Many years ago all the British car manufacturers spent more time on strike and cars sat in fields for yonks unsold . Your new car could have sat all winter covered in snow and ice before being delivered to you as new.I have seen Ssangyong (odd ball Korean 4x4) cars that have impossibly new plates, that have sat on boats or in importers compounds waiting for a buyer . In the UK all that matters is the first registration date .
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Sat May 09, 2015 8:09 pm

used to be that way here my R50S bmw was made in summer of 1961 title says 1963
the papers i have for the Saxon Tour show it as a 1995 model but the bill of sale from dealer to first owner shows
sold as new in 2000 with 20 some miles or km on it
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby dellboy77 » Mon May 11, 2015 6:58 am

we are not the manufacturer of the bike – MZ is in a liquidation process. We are dealing only with spare parts. So I’m not able to track the frame number correctly thie the :| reply from info@muz.de
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby tigcraft » Tue May 12, 2015 7:11 am

A friend of mine bought a sport from one of those batches possibly from Japan. It was registered 2011 on an 11 plate but looking at mine afterwards made me realise that my 97R plate was actually newer with tell tale signs like decals and so on. Eric
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby dellboy77 » Tue May 12, 2015 11:54 am

hi you could be right I did here the story about 12 bike [ new ] from japan my bike has only dune 5000 miles and is in excellent condition I told dvla the frame said the bike is 1995 [ I hope so classic insurance ] they said if I can get dating cert they will change v5 where the hell do I get dating cert help please thanks for all the post del :?: :(
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Tue May 12, 2015 2:12 pm

Your licence department is just like the one where i live
staffed with idots not allowed to correct mistakes when they happen
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby tigcraft » Tue May 12, 2015 4:29 pm

Dellboy, does your reg start RX11?
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby dellboy77 » Sat May 16, 2015 2:26 am

still trying for dat cert if the bike as 2011 reg [ new bike ] did that mean bike did no need m o t for 3 vears because it was 16 years old :D
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Re: dateing cetificate [for bike ]

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:53 am

UPDATE

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